KoaNitro copyHello and welcome back everyone to another wonderful edition of Kick Out at Nitro!  This is the final episode of Nitro for what I’ve dubbed “Season 3.”  Basically, Seasons/Volumes are how I’m breaking these posts up into books, so this book ends with Fall Brawl 1996.  This is the go-home show to Fall Brawl, so it’s our close out Season Finale type of episode as far as Nitro goes.

This is episode 52!  If Nitro hadn’t been preempted back in March, this would have made a full year to the debut, but alas, that happened, so we’re one off.  Of course, that didn’t stop Eric Bischoff from getting the numbers incorrect a few episodes ago, now did it?

This episode comes to us from Columbus, GA, and opens with Tony Schiavone and Larry Zbyszko going over last week’s goings-on involving the nWo, Ted Dibiase, and The Giant.  Larry calls The Giant the biggest traitor since Benedict Arnold, which begs the question “is Giant a bigger traitor thank Hulk Hogan…or is Hulk Hogan a bigger traitor than Arnold?”

Match #1: Pat Tanaka VS Super Calo

Oh, you were looking for star power?  Yeah, not in this match.

We’re joined by Mike Tenay due to Super Calo making his Nitro debut here.  Super Calo has the distinction of having his sunglasses and backwards motorcycle hat integrated into his mask.  Tanaka is dressed as a stereotypically racist foreigner from the “orient,” in an outfit looking like he should be in a Kung Fu flick.  Kung Fu masters also wear ASICS wrestling shoes, in case you were wondering.

We quickly cut outside to see a group of teenagers in nWo shirts each holding a huge stack of flyers.

Calo flips around a lot and throws Tanaka off his game a bit, until Calo goes for a Frankensteiner and Tanaka sit-out powerbombs the crap out of him.  We’re told this happened due to Takana’s “martial arts skills.”  The sit-out powerbomb is a huge staple in jeet kun do.  It is.  Look it up.

Don’t look it up.

Tanaka goes up top with Calo and looks like he’s going for a waist-lock suplex but Calo just oddly falls on him for the win.

Winner: Super Calo

We’re backstage with Mean Gene and Rick Steiner.  Rick Steiner says that last week he almost had Lex Luger beat.  We get a quick replay of the match where we see referee Nick Patrick end the match due to being bumped by Lex Luger after Steiner shoved Luger away.  Luger shows up and gives Steiner props for being a great tag team wrestler, but now they’re going to be wrestling in a singles match and Luger is in War Games, so he’s amped and prepared.  Steiner says that Lex’s partner, Sting, saw that Rick almost beat him.  Rick starts calling for Sting and seems just oddly confused.  I know this is to set up for a match later tonight, but this made Steiner seem mentally challenged.  First off, the match hadn’t been going for more than a minute.  The DQ came right off of the opening lockup, basically, so for Steiner to claim that he had Luger beat is laughable as the match hadn’t progressed to a single move yet.  Secondly, Rick seems really whiney and unsure of himself here.  It makes Luger come off as condescending and it makes Steiner come off like he’s got something wrong with him.  Very odd promo.

“The following announcement has been paid for by the New World Order.”

We get the first ever ad for the nWo shirt!  This is such an awesome shirt.  Just the black shirt with the white logo on it.  Nothing else.

We get a quick rundown of the debut of Glacier on WCW Pro!  After 5 months, Glacier is here!  You can read our thoughts on his debut here.

“Glacier; certainly a man who is going to make a big impact here in WCW.” – Tony Schiavone

Match #2: The Amazing French Canadians (Jacques Rougeau & Carl Ouellet) VS The Nasty Boys

This is the debut of the French Canadians (formerly the Quebeccers in WWF).  Rougeau wants us to stand up as they sing the national anthem.  We get a few bars of it in terrible voices before the Nasty Boys destroy them, much to the delight of the crowd.

We cut to the crowd to see the guys from earlier handing out the nWo flyers.  Larry calls for them to be thrown out.

As they’re talking about this, the referee is distracted with Jerry Saggs while Brian Knobbs gets hit from behind with the Canadian flag by Rougeau.

Tony sends Larry to grab one of the nWo flyers.  It’s just the nWo logo with “You haven’t seen bad…but it’s coming.”

Since the hit with the flag, this match is all French Canadians.  Rougeau helps Ouellet with a cannon ball from the top onto Saggs.  Knobbs goes out and gets the Quebec flag and nails Carl Ouellet with it while Ouellet is perched on the top rope.  Quick cover for the win.

Winners: The Nasty Boys

Mean Gene comes in to talk to the Nasty Boys and says that Jerry Saggs took a few lumps from the Rougeau Brothers.  Good job there, Gene.  That’s Carl Ouellet, not Raymond Rougeau.  Saggs says that everyone here has been pointing the fingers at the Nasty Boys, asking whether they’re nWo or WCW.  Saggs says the tag team championship belts are all that they care about, and they’re in WCW.

Commercial break and we’re back with:

Match #3: Hold VS Hold Match:  Sgt. Craig “Pitbull” Pittman w/ Teddy Long VS Scott “Flash” Norton

Tony talks up the fact that both of these men have submission holds that focus on the upper body.  Due to that, those holds are the only way the match can be won.  He also mentions that Teddy Long also manages Ice Train, so maybe this is Long trying to get Norton softened up before Fall Brawl.

Pittman gets the early offense with a hiptoss, but Norton squashes that nonsense with a falling arm breaker.  We go to the outside where Pittman runs Norton into the guardrail, but Norton runs Pittman’s shoulder into the turnbuckle post.  Back in the ring, Norton puts on his armbar submission.

Pittman is telling manager Teddy Long not to throw in the towel.  Out comes Ice Train, who grabs the towel and throws it in himself, ending the match.

Winner: Scott Norton

Norton doesn’t release the hold for a long time, but he finally does, then he and Ice Train stare each other down for a bit.  Finally the ring clears and we get a quick replay of the end of the match.

We go back to the locker room with Mean Gene, Lex Luger, Arn Anderson, and Ric Flair.  Everyone’s asking where Sting is.  Luger says that he’s been a Horseman, he’s been in War Games…he knows what’s at stake.  Luger says he heard the Steiners say Sting was here, so he’s here.  Flair gives Luger the business until Mongo and Benoit walk in.  Mongo gives Luger crap over Sting not being here, saying that’s what they get for trying to take their spots.  Benoit asks where Sting is as well.  Luger says they know that there’s no one they can trust to be there for WCW more than Sting.  Double A says that he’s already called ahead to Winston-Salem for a hospital room because he knows he’s going to need it.  He says Hogan already too a bat to him and tried to put his eyes out with paint.  They should have used battery acid, because that’s what he would have done!  They argue with Luger a bit more as we go to commercial.

Panning crowd shots are now completely being taken over by people holding up their nWo flyers.

Quick recap of DDP VS Eddie Guerrero at the Clash of the Champions and the three Diamond Cutters DDP gave to Eddie.  We see Chavo Guerrero beat DDP three weeks ago and eat a Diamond Cutter for his troubles, then taking Nick Patrick’s belt and beating Chavo down with it.

Match #4: Joe Gomez VS Juventud Guerrera

Juvi hits this weird springboard flip that looks like he only got a piece of it.  As Joe Gomez gets sent to the floor, the announcers talk about Konnan and the changes he’s been going through.  They state he’s dressing more like a Mexican gang member now.

Both men are on the apron in the corner.  Juvi jumps in and tries to bring Gomez in with a head scissors, but Gomez times it terribly and jumps well after the move.  Juvi takes him up top then backflips off and stands there in the ring, effectively doing nothing.  Gomez comes off the top and Juvi dropkicks him out of the air…badly.  Juvi comes off the top with a hilo con plancha (Tony calls this a “flippy move”) that looks just as bad as everything else in this match for the win.

Winner: Juventud Guerrera

This match was awful.  The crowd agreed, as well.  They’re booing every time a move gets botched.

Mean Gene calls in Nick Patrick, asking about the DQ of Lex Luger last week.  Patrick says that Luger intentionally struck him and that anyone can see it.  Patrick calls out Gene for starting all this crap about him and while we were all looking at Patrick, Giant snuck in and put one over on us.  Gene says that Patrick has a nice car, a nice Rolex, a house…Patrick says Gene is going to keep pushing his buttons and they’re going to wind up in court.

We go outside and we see the same flyers from earlier being put on cars by the nWo themselves!  They’re out in the rain doing this, which is some dedication.  Dibiase is clearly talking to someone in a limo as well.  We see the four known members of the New World Order clearly in frame, so this leads us to believe that the 6th man is in that limo tonight!

Commercial break, including the Saturday Night breakdown.  DDP will take on Jim Duggan.  Rick Steiner will take on Kurasawa.  Shane will not be watching.  Of course, in 1996, Shane probably was watching, I’m not going to lie.

Match #5: Rick Steiner VS “The Total Package” Lex Luger

Tony speculates that Luger and Patrick were in cahoots and that they conspired to throw out the tag match last week.  Wow, what the hell, Tony?!  Larry doesn’t follow that logic, though, and says that WCW needs to look to Luger to be the man and take the title back from Hogan.

Quick commercial break and we’re back to the start of the match.  Rick Steiner is wearing two different boots.  Luger makes a show of shaking Steiner’s hand.  Steiner takes him down with a headlock takeover and from there for a while it’s all Steiner and a ground based game.  I’m so used to watching the Steiners toss fools around that it’s odd to watch one of them wear someone down with mat wrestling.

Luger tries to get up but Steiner’s right back on him with a takedown.  Luger gets away but is met with a big Steinerline for his trouble as we kick off to Hour #2 and our Hour #2 announcers.  Bischoff mentions that Nick Patrick is not the referee for this match so that there’s no controversy.  Big powerslam from Steiner and the crowd is liking that.  Rick follows with an elbow drop for two.

Heenan starts off by asking where Sting is.  Bischoff isn’t worried.

Luger rushes Steiner and runs right into the loving arms of an overhead belly-to-belly suplex.  Rick beats Luger around the ring a bit and goes for a German suplex but Lex grabs the top rope for dear life.  Irish whip and another Steinerline for two.  Lex is sent into the corner and explodes out of it with a jumping clothesline that turns Steiner inside out.  Irish whip again and a powerslam from Luger.  Luger calls for

Lex goes to pick him up and out runs referee Nick Patrick.  Patrick is motioning Lex Luger to follow him, saying come out back.  Luger takes off.

We cut out to the limo and Ted Dibiase arguing with someone in the limo.  We can clearly hear that it’s Sting’s voice.  Out comes Luger, asking “where is he?”  Dibiase asks what Sting would be doing with him.  The limo door opens and out comes Sting.  He kicks Luger in the gut and the rest of the nWo jumps in, helping with the beatdown.  Sting runs off and jumps in a car as Hogan and Dibiase get a few more kicks in.  Luger fires back up a bit, sending their limo driver flying off into the parking lot.  Dibiase and Hogan take off running in opposite directions as well as Luger starts checking the limos, finding nothing.

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We’re back to our announcers who run down what just happened.  Heenan says that it looked like Nick Patrick set Luger up.  Bischoff says forget about Patrick, who cares about him.  Bischoff says he’s hearing from security that they don’t know where the nWo scattered to.  Mike Tenay is just sitting there silently, looking like his puppy just ran away.  Bischoff kicks us off to video from last week of Ted Dibiase coming into the arena, as well as the Giant’s turn.  This is narrated by Tony Schiavone for some reason.  This promo goes on for a good five minute or so, basically recapping the entirety of last week’s episode.  When it’s done, we cut back to our announcers, still looking like they’ve lost their kittens.  Don’t get me wrong, when this happened, I was beside myself that Sting could possibly turn on WCW and join the nWo, but damn, man.

They end the promo with the line “WCW…more unified than ever before” however, which isn’t really apropos for the situation.  Bischoff forlornly kicks us back to the footage of Sting and the now jumping Luger in the parking lot then cuts to commercial, including another nWo shirt ad.  Talk about kicking a company when they’re down.

Back from commercial and we have Lex Luger, Big Bubba, Rick Steiner, Brian Knobbs, Scott Norton, the French Canadians., and a few others looking through the parking lot for Sting.  Nice to see the French Canadians jump in quickly seeing as how they just got here.

Match #6: WCW Cruiserweight Championship Match: Billy Kidman VS Rey Mysterio, Jr. (WCW Cruiserweight Champion)

Bobby mirrors my sentiments by saying “Eric, it sounds like you just lost your best friend.”  There’s no response from Eric, so after a beat, Bobby goes “Obviously you did.”

Tenay starts off by telling us that due to the influx of Mexican wrestlers, Billy Kidman has been kind of lost in the cruiserweight shuffle.  He’s not wrong.  Rey starts of with a hurracanrana that sends Kidman to the floor.  He hits another one on the floor and sends Kidman back into the ring.  He goes for a springboard move but Kidman dropkicks him out of the air, slams him, then hits a big top rope splash for two.  Irish whip to the ropes, shoulder to the gut to Kidman, then flipping springboard senton for the win.

Winner: Rey Mysterio, Jr. (still WCW Cruiserweight Champion)

Damn, that was quick!

Rey was wearing a black and neon green outfit that looked pretty badass.  I liked it.

Match #7: The Faces of Fear w/ Jimmy Hart VS Public Enemy

This one degenerates into a brawl pretty quickly.  I’m not gonna lie, I’m kind of getting tired of Public Enemy.  Their matches are super hard to watch because they never work like actual tag matches and always end up split screened.

Rocco Rock tries to hit a springboard moonsault but lands all kinds of awkwardly on Barbarian.

The match finally turns into a normal tag team match and the first thing I notice is the damn Leprechaun running around ringside.  This is one of the stupidest things WCW has ever come up with.  In a world where we’re moving into reality type storylines, this just looks very stupid and makes me wonder who thought this would be a good idea.

For some reason we cut to a promo in the middle of a match.

Yes, let me repeat that…a backstage promo in the MIDDLE OF A DAMN MATCH!

It’s Mean Gene with the Horsemen and Luger.  Gene asks what’s going on with Sting.  Double A says he’s not upset that Luger lost a friend.  He’s not upset that he lost a teammate.  He’s upset because for the last 10 years, the only thing that has been constant is Sting.  Arn says he wants answers from Luger.  Luger says he has no answers.  He’s just been stabbed in the back by his best friend.  He leaves, saying he’s going to go try to get answers.  Flair says that if Luger wants to ride with the Horsemen, he’s in.  Flair says four of them will walk in and four will walk out.  Double A says that if Sting isn’t going to be in the spot, he’s got two men that are chomping at the bit for it and wanted it to begin with.  Mongo ends the promo screaming “gimme the ball!”

Through the second half of the promo they splitscreen the match, but honestly, the promo is way more interesting so I hate to say it, but I didn’t catch what was going on.

Back to the match, the Faces of Fear are in control.  Barbarian sends Rocco into the corner but is met by a boot.  Rocco goes for the tag but Barbarian cuts him off.  This brings in Grunge, who draws the referee’s attention and lets the Faces of Fear double team Rock in the corner.

Bischoff says that people have been saying that War Games should have originally been the Four Horsemen and he’s inclined to agree.  He then calls Nick Patrick an nWo protégé.

The tables get setup right off of the corner and Barbarian puts Rocco Rock on it and dives from the top to the floor.  At the last moment, though, Rocco Rock moves so Barbarian crashes through the table and to the floor!  Rock brings in another table.  Public Enemy sets Meng on it, Grunge holds him down and Rocco hits a moonsault through the table.  Barbarian comes back in and it’s a brawl.  Meng locks on the Tongan Death Grip on Grunge, prompting Nick Patrick to FINALLY end the match.  One would think the moonsault through the table would be enough.

Winners: Faces of Fear (via DQ)

During the recap, Bobby calls Meng “Haku.”

We’re in the ring with Mean Gene and the entirety of the Dungeon of Doom.  Konnan is now standing with them.  Wonder when that happened.  Jimmy Hart says he’s upset that people keep blaming him for creating The Giant.  Big Bubba calls out Glacier again.  Gene asks Konnan about Fall Brawl.  Konnan says that Kevin Sullivan has led the biggest gang wars from California to Miami.  He challenges the nWo to come to the ring right now.  Konnan has now ditched his colorful clothes and is dressed like a stereotypical Latino gang member now.  Pretty drastic change in looks.  Sullivan, who is dressed in jeans and a WCW t-shirt oddly enough, says that they helped Savage to the back last week, and if he wants to pay them back, take out Tenta tonight.

Commercial, including a new nWo add that isn’t for the t-shirt.  They’re posing behind a chainlink cage.  Hogan is talking about being the champion.  They talk about Ted Dibiase having more money than Ted Turner.  They talk about Giant joining and no one believing there was a 5th man despite Dibiase telling them.  Pretty cool promo.  These things are so awesome.  Ted says that WCW wants them in this match, well they want some things too.  They want their own segment on a WCW TV show and they want their own tag team tournament to showcase their talent.  Hall holds up the 4 Horsemen sign and says they’re going to turn it over and now it’s “nWo 4 life.”

Match #8: John Tenta VS “Macho Man” Randy Savage

Tenta is coming out to Jericho’s future WCW music.  It was odd hearing that.  I actually started writing “Lionheart” Chris Jericho until Tenta walked out and I had to erase it.  So odd how music gets recycled sometimes.

Tenta takes it to Savage immediately.  Clothesline, sends him into the corner, then nailing him with shots.  Tenta wrestling like a heel here, which is odd because last time we saw him he was a babyface, feuding with Big Bubba.  Tenta still has half of his head shaved, too, which is dumb.  How long ago was that angle?  Three months?  At least two?

Savage tries a scoop slam but Tenta just weighs too much and comes crashing down on him.  They end up outside where Savage takes a steel chair to Tenta a few times before sending him back into the ring.  Double axe handle and then TWO flying elbow drops.  Out comes Teddy Long and he’s begging Savage to follow him, yelling “they’re back, they’re back.”  Savage leaps from the ring and to the floor and follows Teddy out.

Winner: No Contest

The moment Savage shows up, the limo speeds off.  We also see the Horsemen, Rick Steiner, and the Dungeon of Doom are there as well.  They find another limo and Savage searches it, coming out with a box of spray paint.  The WCW guys spray WCW on the limo, in the rain, so it doesn’t show up at all and won’t stay there.  That’s not intelligent, but emotions are running high, so I’ll give it to them.  They pull back and basically everyone who was on this show is out there now.

We kick back to the announcers to finish off the show.  They’re joined by Double A, who is soaking wet, but he grabs a headset.  He says the world’s in shock and outraged, but there’s no one hotter than the Horsemen.  He says everything started 10 years ago with Flair, Anderson, Tully Blanchard and Ole Anderson.  He says they showed Hogan the way.  He says Hogan wants to be a Horseman but he just don’t know how, so he’s surround himself with every cutthroat he can find.  Now he’s even taken Sting, which he says he never thought would happen.  He tells Sting that if he shows up as the 4th man at War Games, though, they’ll take his head off and that’s the God’s honest truth.  Flair says they shouldn’t have the Horsemen locked up backstage.  They should be out here up front.  He says that the nWo will not leave Winston-Salem alive.

Eric says that maybe it was a mistake to ever bring Hulk Hogan to WCW and that maybe they haven’t given the Horsemen their due.  I’m sure that hurt Eric to say.

We end the show with another replay of Sting and the nWo beating down Luger.

 

Damn.  This show!  Emotions running rampant.  Sting has betrayed WCW.  The Horsemen are hot about it and they’re ready to kill.  WCW is pissed.  Bischoff is admitting that Hogan shouldn’t be in the company.  It’s awesome!

Some good wrestling throughout the show, honestly, but a few too many no contests and DQs for my liking, unfortunately.  I liked Savage just wrecking shop on Tenta, though.  I also really liked seeing Bobby Heenan standing with the Four Horsemen at the end.  It made me realize how much I would have loved to see Heenan manage them.  We got a quick glimpse of that in June at Bash at the Beach, but him managing the full group would have been awesome and really helped guys like Mongo and Benoit who can’t cut promos for anything.

Sting, though…turning his back on WCW and on his best friend.  Like Double A has said multiple times, Sting was my constant, so watching this in 1996, seeing my favorite wrestler turn and join the nWo, who I still hated because they were the heels…that one was rough.  I couldn’t believe it.  Why would he do it?

We’re in a very interesting place going into Fall Brawl, though, so in that regard, this show was an amazing go-home show.  It turned the entire main event on its head.  We went in knowing who all four of WCW’s guys were, but not knowing who the 4th man in the nWo was.  Then Giant jumped ship, but we knew it wouldn’t be him because he’s wrestling Savage that night.  But now…all signs point to Stinger being the 4th man…and now we’re without a 4th man for team WCW.  This set everything into chaos and now the idea of Flair, Arn, and Luger getting to lock themselves in the steel War Games cages and beat the hell out of the nWo and the traitorous Sting…that’s something that sells tickets and PPV buys, friends.  Trust me, I know.  I sacrificed $30 of my money I had saved for a Sony Playstation because I just HAD to see this.

Join us next time for the Finale of Kick Out at Nitro Vol. 3…Fall Brawl: War Games!

Shane

 

Ratings Breakdown

WWF Raw Ratings –2.4

WCW Nitro Ratings – 3.7

(Raw – 17, Nitro – 28) (Tie Weeks – 2)

(Unopposed weeks – 7)

WWF’s longest Winning Streak (to this point) – 6

WCW’s longest Winning Streak (to this point) – 11

At this point, we’re one full year into this war.  Nitro ran unopposed its first night, so it wasn’t until the next week (9/10/1995) that the Monday Night War officially kicked off.  So, at this point, we stand 28-17 in Nitro’s favor, with two tie weeks and 7 weeks that the two shows ran unopposed.  It’s interesting to look back and see that the two shows were tied the week before WCW’s 11 week win-streak (at this point) began, but that really shows that the audience was there for both shows equally until the summer of the New World Order.  While WCW isn’t running away with the war and the victories are usually only about a point away from each other, it’s clear to see that The Outsiders and Hogan have started something in Turner-land that really brought in the viewers.  Looking back, I was still 100% into WCW at this time.  While I knew what was going on over on Raw, WCW was my main viewing pleasure.  They definitely had me hooked, and it looks like they had a lot of others as well.

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WWF Raw results from this week

Faarooq (w/ Sunny) defeated Savio Vega in a WWF Intercontinental Title Tournament Quarter Final Match (13:37)

The Stalker defeated TL Hopper (3:28)

Crush (w/ Clarence Mason) defeated Freddie Joe Floyd (2:41)

The Undertaker defeated Salvatore Sincere (9:55)

Three enhancement matches.  Why did Taker VS Sal Sincere go 10 minutes?!  That’s insane.  On paper, it’s no wonder why Nitro decimated Raw this week.

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I’ve been quiet. Too quiet. The fact that I haven’t really written anything here for Kick Out at 2! in a very long time is well, depressing. Truth is when Shane and I started this site it was meant to be nothing but a running commentary of our thoughts of the current product of professional wrestling. We started it, we were full of ideas and we had content flowing on the site on a regular basis. Truth is over time, wrestling got stale for me. For two years people like CM Punk and Daniel Bryan were going against the grain, forcing change and putting the “Entertainment” back in the company’s name. WWE was on fire, a hotter fire than it had been in a long time. Then it burned out… then I burned out.

While Shane had been keeping the site going with his journey into WCW, I felt like I honestly wasn’t pulling my weight. It was hard for me to write about anything but honestly my heart just wasn’t in wrestling anymore. I had simply become so disenchanted with wrestling and almost totally lost the passion and the love that I’ve always had for it. I knew that WWE didn’t give a damn what I thought or what millions of others fans thought. For the last 3 years, no matter how much we voiced our frustration, flat out told Vince and his powers that be that we didn’t want to eat what was being force feed to us, WWE has been consistently pushing bad ideas as their main roster down our throats.

I haven’t watched an entire episode of RAW in at least 2 years, following the product through PPV’s alone on The Network because it seemed like storylines simply didn’t matter, they were dropped with no explanation, no new characters were being made and WWE was simply refusing to grow as a product in the entertainment field.  It then got to a point where I wasn’t watching PPV’s. I eventually returned and watched The Royal Rumble with my friends on Xbox Party Chat. We loved the fact that AJ Styles made his debut and once we saw Triple H become World Heavyweight Champion we felt for a few weeks that maybe, just maybe WWE was reading the writing on the wall. With all the injuries they are having and Roman Reigns simply not getting over as the cookie cutter baby face Vince wanted him to be, I figured Vince was going to the right thing and force some changes by having Dean Ambrose challenge for the title at Wrestlemania.

Not only was I wrong again but Wrestlemania as a whole was quickly shaping up to be the worst Mania I have ever seen. Not only was it bad but it was worse than I could have possibly imagined. The story of this Wrestlemania wasn’t the Championship, it was The Authority. The fact that WWE made a story out of WWE’s ratings being in the toilet and built an entire angle out of Shane fighting for control to make a change seemed like a perfect setting to change it up. Having Undertaker beat Shane was a complete waste and an incredibly mis-booked storyline. Dean Ambrose not getting a win over the monster that is Brock Lesnar was another waste and in a world where Chris Jericho has been consistently putting over younger talent for two years, was there any reason for AJ Styles “Wrestling’s hottest free agent at the time of his signing” to not get the win and a Wrestlemania moment against the established veteran?

WWE claims that their attendance record was over 100,000 when in reality it was just slightly over 94,000 but regardless, when you have “100,000” people unanimously “booing” someone, you do not put the title on that person! 20 some years ago Vince had the idea that Lex Luger was going to be the superstar to replace Hulk Hogan, wanting to initially over look the likes of Bret Hart and Shawn Michaels. Today he is wanting Roman Reigns to be the next John Cena, overlooking the likes of Dean Ambrose, Dolph Ziggler, Kevin Owens, Sami Zayn, Bray Wyatt even Zack Ryder. The point here is, especially now with the possibility of calling any NXT talent up to the main roster, ANYONE but Roman Reigns deserves to be World Champion. Because of WWE’s inability to tell a compelling story with him, Roman has had the title sling shot back to him so many times that he is now a 3 Time World Champion, 1 away from tying Shawn Michaels’ career record. Shawn Michaels, the man who had the 30 some year wrestling career! Roman has been there 4 years… he hasn’t earned that and he surely does not deserve it.

Speaking of NXT. NXT Dallas Takeover was absolutely wonderful! This promotion is single handedly been the only thing that has kept my interest in wrestling from totally fading away. NXT Dallas hooked me back. Finn Balor vs Samoa Joe was incredible and people are going to really have to step it up if they want to take the “Match of the Year” title away from the Sami Zayn vs Shinsuke Nakamura match. Triple H knows how to run a wrestling show and from what I’ve seen it seems like WWE will be in good hands once Vince does decide to hang it up, which honestly needs to be sooner rather than later.

I broke down and actually watched RAW this week, meaning that I watched the 90 Min version of it on HULU. Let’s face it, 3hrs is simply too long for a weekly wrestling show. Surprisingly enough I didn’t hate it as much as I thought I would. Seeing a lot of the NXT guy’s debut was nice and honestly gives me some hope that WWE could potentially get better. I had heard that Zack Ryder lost his Intercontinental Championship and was pretty pissed about that but honestly seeing the way it unfolded I kind of feel like Zack may be front and center for what could potentially be a good story for him. I really hope he wins it back as I feel he could be a very credible champion and he clearly deserves it. Cesaro returning was absolutely incredible and the Fatal Four way to determine the number one contender was really, really good. All four of those guys that were involved in the match deserve to be champion. I really hope that AJ makes an impact with the WWE audience and he isn’t simply served up to the “all powerful Samoan Overlord”

There are a lot reasons that wrestling fans such as myself have to be upset with the way that WWE is currently handling their own product and rightfully so. However with the amount of pure talent on the roster, the untapped potential and the seeds of improvement that I hope were sown Monday Night I can only hope for the best. I won’t say my relationship with WWE is over but it has clearly taken a beating and it’s going to take some time to make a full recovery, if it ever does…

I really hope it does.

Robbie C.

KoaNitro copyLadies and gentlemen, welcome to a very special edition of Kick Out at Nitro!  Oddly enough, this one isn’t from WCW Monday Nitro…it’s from WCW Pro, WCW’s weekly syndicated show.  Now, why are we bringing you this random installment of Kick Out at Pro, you may ask?

Well…this is something that’s five months in the making!

This, WCW fans, is the debut of Glacier!

Yes, our blood is currently running cold, ladies and gentlemen!

Glacier promos started back in April of 1996 and ran all through the summer and into the tail end of it before the frozen martial arts master finally made his WCW in-ring debut.  Until this point, all we’ve seen of the man is him in vignettes running through his bevy of martial arts katas.  Originally he was supposed to debut pretty quickly after the vignettes started, but as WCW moved into the debut of the Outsiders and the formation of the New World Order, the cartoony character was left off to a later date.  That date…September 8, 1996.

I remember watching this one live.  It was a Sunday and, although I thought it was odd that this highly hyped character that had been speculated at for months was going to debut on WCW’s third tier show, there was no way I was going to miss it.  I’m sure my mother loved that as I usually didn’t watch Pro, so Sunday was one of the few days that wrestling was on that she wasn’t subjected to it…but I wasn’t going to be deterred.

So, what we’re going to do here, fans, is have a quick review by each member of Ko@2 that you’ve seen in the WCW write-ups.  They took five months to hype him so this write-up will take no less than 5 men to get it done!

With that, I take you to…

The Gambler VS Glacier

The Gambler looks to be about 120 years late to his own party.  Dude is dressed up like a wild west gambler but with short black trunks.

The arena goes black except for a blue light being shown over the ring.  It also starts snowing in the ring!  At the entry way, out comes Glacier, dressed in a metal warrior’s armor.  He does some martial arts moves, removes the armor, and enters the ring.  He removes his face covering, flips off into the center of the ring, and finishes off doing some kata that Larry Zbyszko calls “a mix of styles.”  We’re told his goal is to become the greatest martial artist in history.  We’re also told that his entire family, basically, are cops.

Glacier bows to the ref, bows to the Gambler, but is sucker punched by Gambler.

This blue light is going to shine over the ring the entire match, apparently.  Think early Sin Cara, folks.

We get some kicks, arm drags, and a hip toss from Glacier, showing us he’s the scourge of unknown enhancement talent everywhere.  Glacier leapfrogs Gambler, back kicks him in the gut, then powerbombs him for good measure.  He doesn’t cover him, though, which is silly.  He goes up top and comes off with a flying side kick to Gambler for the win.

Winner: Glacier

Glacier goes back to the center of the ring to his spotlight and goes through his kata again.  Larry gives us some information about how hard that side kick was.  Dusty Rhodes tells us that the entire universe just watched this debut, so Big Bubba, who recently called out Glacier, was sure to have seen it.  Chris Cruz tells us about Nitro coming up and kicks us off the air as this was the main event.

Man, I can’t wait for Bischoff to call this guy’s matches.  He’s going to be calling so many back leg round kicks!

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Okay, there was the match.  Now, our thoughts.

First off, for me, Shane.  I think the fact that they debuted this guy on Pro is very telling.  They knew they had a dud on their hands, so why not debut it, after FIVE MONTHS of hype, on probably their least rated show outside of Main Event, which ran on Saturdays in syndication…so whenever my local NBC affiliate decided they had no informercial to run.  Seriously, that show couldn’t be tracked down with any regularity.  This, you would have imagined, would have been on Nitro, in front of the largest live audience they could get and the largest TV audience they could get.  But no…Sunday at 5 PM.

The match was a typical squash match but it showed us that Glacier really can’t work that well.  He’s trying to be too Mortal Kombat so we’re just getting kicks and throws, so basically except for that one powerbomb, everything was either a kick or an arm drag.  Not very exciting.  Grappling and submission can help someone create an MMA type of character, as we’ve seen with Samoa Joe, Kurt Angle, Taz, and even Goldberg to a degree…and with Brock Lesnar now…but straight martial arts with kicks and whatnot seems out of place.  There’s nowhere for the other guy to work as they have no basis with that type of offense.  It came off sloppy and hokey.  Seriously, dude’s entrance and exit were about as long as the match!

On paper, the idea of wrestling and video games should work together, but this Sub Zero clone just didn’t work here.  I’m way more interested in Wrath and Mortis showing up than I am watching this dude get many singles matches, honestly.

Robbie:

Was that real!? Did that really happen!? I was seriously under the impression that Shane had sent me the wrong link until I recognized Dusty Rhodes’ voice on commentary. I had only ever seen pictures of Glacier and had never watched anything with him in it until now. All I had ever been told was he was a wrestling version of Sub-Zero from Mortal Kombat… yep that’s the truest statement ever! With his 90’s look and his 8-bit entrance music it looks like WCW was really trying to create the perfect mash-up of popularity from that time. I guess this isn’t the most outrageous thing from the 90’s but come on … The announcers talking him up were excited about him then as much as Sony is now about the new Ghostbusters reboot. Fans of what has come before simply know this shouldn’t be happening. Man, wrestling is really weird sometimes!

Derick:

12 year old Champ loved Glacier. It was the prefect mix: A character from Mortal Kombat (my love for video games) is now “invading” my other love, Personal Wrestling. There were awesome vignettes and a smoke of mystery surrounding this guy. Throw in the tagline “Blood runs cold” and Man, this was great.

After months, literally months, of these vignettes, he made his debut. He comes out, and it all seemed worth it. The arena goes black, snow falls, and techno starts pumping the speakers. His outfit was flat stolen from the MK movie set. The ENTIRE time he comes to ring and performs his kata, all 3 announcers are pouring information and praises about this man. Apparently knowing 385 different types of martial arts and everyone in his family was/is a cop, Glacier was a force to be reckoned with now in WCW. Oh, and when he wrestles, the ring turns blue!!!!

…..Then the match started. Honestly, his entrance is longer than the match itself. Trust me, I timed it. Obviously his martial arts needs fine tuning, because all he knows how to do are kicks and arm drags. Oh, and the all important chop. He ends the match with his Cryonic Kick (by the way, that’s a kick too) and the match is quickly over. And thankfully too. Because, Damn.

All in all, little Champ loved everything about Glacier. Little Champ thought he was cool and presentation was everything. Adult Champ hates Shane a little for destroying another great part of my childhood. There was no wrestling at all. Lesson here kids, that cool stuff you love now is probably going to suck when you reminisce. Thanks a lot, Shane……

The now suddenly sad Champ has spoken

Phillip:

The fact that I find this absurd, is like absurd-ception. Let’s reflect on the fact that this was a time when the Dungeon of Doom was still a stable and Booty Man was just killed off. Just let that sink in. Wrestling was as much a Saturday morning cartoon come to life. Bright colors, easy to see hero/villian narratives. When a heel turn involved a man in brightly colored tights putting on a black gimmick with lightning, and growing dark stubble under his iconic mustache to let us know, he’s dark, he’s the bad guy.

Why wouldn’t Bischoff see that this product was selling and think, next level is video games come to life! It’s a sensible next step. With the benefit of hindsight, we all know the attitude era is coming in WWE, and the nWo era is really taking off in WCW. Gritty, real, antihero stories with more complex ideas around who the “good guy” is, but all of that was really more organic. This is a WCW, and even WWE creative was about larger than life. None of those guys could have predicted  or created Austin 3:16 or “Sweeeeeet!” they weren’t in touch with what was happening.

Just like all great, and game changing moments, you can’t craft them. They just…are. Without that organic explosion of real life taking over wrestling, WCW may have made a killing off of this gimmick. The problem is while Kevin Nash was leading the Wolf Pack, Glacier was a crow left of the murder.

Wrestling was swelling, begging for a revolution. Smarks will tell you that this vignette style of introduction is to keep someone on the DL for a while so they can clean off the image, erase their existence, so that they can be born anew. No one had these style of entrances, lasers, snow, low light. Glacier recalled this on a podcast, and made note that Double A told him “you’d have to walk on water to live up to that entrance”. He’s right, and let’s be honest, it could have worked, but why? Why in the name of all things holy didn’t they get a guy who could throw a kick? Or knew anything about any martial art, EVER! Bischoff was more convincing! I’ve defended (how?) the idea behind Glacier, but the execution, well… left a lot to be desired. I think it was really insulting to the audience, and if they tried that now, we’d burn Bischoff at the stake!

I mean imagine if we took some of the skills of a martial artist that did works later, even guys like Syxx at least looked like he could throw a kick. This looks like kicking someone was a foreign concept, like he didn’t have 5 months to do any research or train. It’s like they grabbed a Sub Zero halloween costume on his way out, and said “go kick people, and do karate stuff” and he was like “ummm….ok, I guess” and then they dropped the lights, cued the lasers and let the fake snow fall, bringing a winter of hate in our hearts!

After 5 months of Sub Zero trailers, I get a less athletic version of what I looked like pretending to be a ninja in my bedroom as an adolescent. Facing the incomparable competition of professional jobber The Gambler on WCW Saturdays… I appreciate this is a special event, but not even dimming the lights to Marvin Gaye levels, and tinting it blue can hide that what Glacier was supposed to be, is not what was delivered. Zbysko is really trying to convince me that this is special martial arts, and oh, it is special, like a little short blue bus on its way to the last stop at character station. It’s like MK3 and UFC1 were involved in a West Virginia romance, and and conceived a brand new chromosome damaged brand of WTF?! The vignettes looked good, the hype was there, but this was the beginning of the “real” era of wrestling. My final word on this dollar tree budget Sub Zero… Finish Him

Benny:

Ok so I’ve been given the task of reviewing the WCW Glacier debut,UGH. So we get like 6 months of video promos with the tagline “Blood Runs Cold” and this guy shows up dressed like sub-zero from Mortal Combat, with what seems like a 10 minute entrance. And his first match is against The Gamber, really they were ready to bury this gimmick from day 1.

Two things wrong with the Glacier character:

1. Too much hype. Glacier was destined to be a mid-card novelty act, and they built him up as the next big thing. It’s no surprise that he was a bust from day one. If you are expecting The Empire Strikes Back, and you get the Phanton Menace, of course you’re going to be disappointed.

2. He debuted a few years too late. First off, Mortal Kombat was big in 1992-1993. By 1997, people had moved on to other games. More importantly, the wrestling industry had moved on from those cheesy gimmicks from the early 90’s. The nWo had changed everything, and Glacier’s character was essentially a step backwards.

So that’s all I have to say about that guy.

 

Wrestlemania.  The Showcase of the Immortals.  The grandest stage of them all.

The show that makes me reevaluate professional wrestling, yet again.

Wrestlemania is wrestling’s Super Bowl.  It’s Stanley Cup.  It’s become more than just WWE’s annual big show.  Over the last ten years or so, Wrestlemania weekend has become a celebration of all things wrestling.  ROH, Evolve, and other indy companies always relocate to the Mania host city to do big shows that weekend.  There’s Axxess, WWE’s fan festival where you can do anything from meet your favorite superstars to watch some live wrestling to walk through a mini museum of WWE’s past.  There’s the Hall of Fame ceremony, where wrestling’s legends are honored.  There’s WrestleCon and other wrestling events.  It’s a big deal.

It’s no lie or even a secret that we here at Kick Out at 2 have been out of the current product for a while.  I still catch the PPVs and keep an ear to the ground on what’s going on with Raw, but in 2016, I have watched a total of two complete episodes of Monday Night Raw…and one was because I was at the event.  As the injuries mounted and the card came together, we were not getting excited about Mania whatsoever over here in Ko@2land.

Wrestlemania, however, finds a way.  As Friday bled into Saturday and eventually Sunday, all I could think about was wrestling.  There wasn’t a single thing on my television on Sunday that didn’t happen in a squared circle.  I found myself getting excited.  I found myself wishing I had called a few friends over and had a Wrestlemania party.  I found myself wishing I was back in Virginia so we could have a Kick Out at 2 Wrestlemania Party ourselves, with blackjack and…well, I digress.  What I’m saying is that the part of me that loves pro wrestling awoke and Wrestlemania was the full moon that brought it to snarling life.

So, let’s talk about Mania.  I’m not going to do a full breakdown like I do on Nitro or something like that.  For one, there are other places that do that stuff with the current product.  For another, from start to finish, Wrestlemania was almost SEVEN HOURS LONG!  The pre-show started at 5, the show ended at fifteen till midnight.  That’s ridiculous.  I can barely stomach a three hour Raw anymore, so trying to write up seven hours would be maddening.  For most of the event, I was on XBOX Live with Derick and Robbie, so I know their thoughts on the card and for almost every point I make, rest assured that I speak with the full authority of us here at Kick Out at 2.

This card let me down.  Just the card, out of the gate.  Now, I know that’s due to injuries, so I’m not spending too much time on this, but going into the show, I was excited for THREE matches.  Three…in a seven hour show.  I wanted to see the Intercontinental Championship ladder match, AJ Styles VS Chris Jericho, and Shane McMahon VS The Undertaker.  I’m not a Roman Reigns fan in the slightest, so that match didn’t have my attention at all…but we’ll get to that later on.

We get the undercard on the pre-show, which I always feel bad for because these guys deserve to be on the main show.  It’s telling at how bloated the roster is right now when you can’t fit your important guys on the show in five hours.  I’m not exactly calling for a brand extension or a roster split…but we gotta do something here.  Anyway, Ryback and Kalisto was a pretty decent match albeit one that looked like it was contested in front of about 45 people because of how early in the pre-show it happened.  They’ve finally given Ryback a bit of personality, but he’s a heel now which is dumb.  People like this guy as a monster babyface.  Do that.  The Total Divas VS non-Total Divas match was useless except to let us know that there are at least 13 women in this division, which is ridiculous when only about six of them can put on a decent match to save their lives.  We were treated to the in-ring debut of Lana, which was meh, and the main roster return of Eva Marie, which was totally useless.  Brie Bella wins with the Yes Lock, which I liked.  Usos VS Dudley Boys was nothing special but it was interesting when the crowd booed the crap out of the Usos at the end of the match.

So, on to Wrestlemania! I enjoyed the ending to ONE match.  ONE!

Now, I read a comment on Reddit today that kind of drew this post out of me.  The guy, and I’m paraphrasing here, basically said “you’re a bunch of smarks who are pissed their favorite guy didn’t win.”  I’ll go on record as saying that one of the things I have a problem with is that my guy didn’t win in ONE match.  That was AJ Styles.  I love AJ Styles unapologetically and wanted him to win.  Especially when Jericho has been putting people over at Mania for years now.  And he didn’t.  So…that upset me.  I saw no real reason why Styles couldn’t win, but I ultimately don’t think it hurt Styles and I don’t know if it’ll be the end of their feud, but still…Wrestlemania should be about making new talent.  AJ debuted as the hottest free agent in pro wrestling, so him being beaten by a man who everyone can beat now doesn’t really do much for him going forward.  Chalk it up to WWE’s 50/50 booking lately, I suppose.  Now, with that out of the way, I can assure you that anything else I have a problem with doesn’t come from a place of “I’m pouting because my guy didn’t win.”

The Intercontinental Championship match was awesome and was the match of the night and the moment of the night for me.  I was legitimately excited to see Zack Ryder win and I hope that he gets a push that continues for a long time.  He’s earned it more than anyone else on that roster.

The Divas…nay…Women’s Championship match was pretty good.  I’m not invested in any of these ladies, though, so Charlotte winning didn’t do much or detract from anything for me.  It simply was.  I did like Sasha wearing tights commemorating Eddie Guerrero, though, as well as Charlotte coming out in a robe made of Flair’s 2008 robe.  That was pretty tight.  I like the new Women’s Championship belt as well.  It’s way better than the Divas title.  I’m also very glad the Divas moniker is gone.

Why’d New Day lose?  They’re the hottest thing WWE has right now.  I get that the loss doesn’t hurt them, per se, but still, send people home happy.

Or, was sending people home happy why we got the three legends coming out to beat down the League of Nations?  I’m not going to lie, I marked at this.  I enjoyed seeing some Stone Cold Stunners get tossed around.  This, along with Zack Ryder, made my night.

Ambrose losing was probably inevitable, but I think they could have done more in building him up to be a legit threat to Lesnar.  I never felt that Lesnar was in trouble through the entire match.  Plus, I’m getting tired of Suplex City.  Brock is a great wrestler, but his entire repertoire has been reduced to two moves.  I’m over it.  Brock got the win and deserved it, but they’ve basically established that no one can beat Brock.  He’s Godzilla.  Who’s that going to help?

Now…let’s get to the two that really upset me…

  • Roman Reigns wins the WWE World Heavyweight Championship for the third time.

There’s so much about that sentence that makes me unhappy.  Like I said before, I’m not a fan of Roman Reigns.  He has no charisma.  He’s not a great wrestler.  He can’t talk to save his life.  I just don’t like him.  Nothing against him…I just can’t get into him.  He was my least favorite part of The Shield but he’s the part that’s getting shoved down my throat week in and week out for the last year.

I’m not alone in this.  100,000 people booed the living crap out of Roman Reigns last night.  They booed him so much that they had to lower the mic volume to keep it from sounding bad.  This was so apparent that one of my 9th graders came in today commenting about it.  The “WWE Universe” does not want Roman Reigns as champion.  For the last two months they’ve been telling WWE that at Raw, Smackdown, and live shows.  HHH has been the odds on babyface through this entire feud and has been cheered relentlessly for it.  He was the man last night and he was who everyone wanted to see win.  Except he didn’t.  Vince didn’t listen to his audience.  He didn’t listen to his fans.  He didn’t listen to the people who pay for tickets and merch and the WWE Network.  Nope…he gave Roman the belt.  For the third time.

You see, I can deal with a champion I don’t want.  But I can’t deal with one that now only has one less world title reign than Shawn freaking Michaels!  WWE does this stupid thing recently where a guy’s first title reign or so doesn’t matter.  Roman wins it in November…boom, Sheamus cashes in on him.  He wins it a month later…boom, HHH wins it from him in the Rumble.  So, now, he’s a three time champion out of nowhere, the crowd still can’t stand him, but there we go.

One would think this would be my biggest issue with last night, but that one is reserved for….

  • WHY DID SHANE McMAHON LOSE?!

What the living hell, WWE?!  Now, I understand that having a 46 year old man who was never a legit wrestler come out and beat the Phenom seems kind of silly, but you have to look at the narrative that went into that match.  Shane comes out two months ago and says he’s going to be the voice of the people and he’s going to change the sinking ship that is WWE for the better.  He’s going to wrest power away from The Authority and take back Monday Night Raw, as well as his legacy as Vince McMahon’s son and heir apparent.  Then, after last night, it’s just over.  No change.  No Raw is Shane.  No nothing.  Just the same as it ever was.

Here’s the problem with this, and it flows into my problem with Roman…

With this angle, WWE came out point blank and said yes, our ratings are tanking.  Yes, we know we’re not as awesome as we once were.  Yes, we know you hate The Authority opening the show with 20 minute glad-handing promos.  Yes, we know you want it to be better.

They gave that potential change a face.  A face we all love.  A face some people have legitimately been wanting to show back up and wrest real life control of the WWE back from his father, sister and brother-in-law.  They gave us Shane o’Mac; a man who’s awesomeness is only topped by his fire shoe game.

Then they beat him and took it all away.

Go back and watch the very end of that match.  Taker sarcastically pats Shane on the cheek as if to say “it’s so cute how you thought it would change…”and then plants our hopes and dreams of a new day on Raw tonight right on their head in the center of the ring with a Tombstone piledriver.  With that match, Vince McMahon told the fans watching the WWE that he hears their complaints…and that he just doesn’t care.

Damian Sandow tweeted out today that if we have opinions, make sure they hear them tonight.  Now, Damian was speaking in reference to the ovation he got in the Andre Memorial Battle Royal last night.  If we’re a fan, tell WWE so they’ll know.  Unfortunately, Damian, we’ve tried letting Vince know what we think.  We tried it at the Royal Rumble last year.  We tried it at Wrestlemania last year.  We tried it at the Royal Rumble this year.  We tried it through the entire lead up to Wrestlemania.  We tried that AT Wrestlemania.  Hell, we even tried it a few years ago WITH YOU.  If it’s not in Vince’s master plan, he’s not listening.  What he wants to happen is what’s going to happen, us be damned.

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I always hold NXT up as proof that this company can run a wrestling promotion the way that fans want.  NXT has long term storytelling that makes sense.  NXT has great wrestling action.  NXT has minimal intrusion from “authority figures.”  NXT put on a show on Friday with not a single gimmick match.  Just singles matches and tag team matches.  It blew Wrestlemania out of the water.  It’s not even close.  NXT: Takeover is the better wrestling show.  And they accomplished it in two hours.  WWE, the biggest wrestling promotion in the world, took seven and was really only able to piss me off.  This company knows what to do…they just refuse to do it on a larger scale.

I’m going to wrap up with this.  Wrestlemania is in Orlando next year.  Four hours from my apartment here in Miami.  Until last night, all I could talk about was getting a group together to hit Mania weekend and everything that comes with it.  Last night, after the show had gone off the air, that desire was gone.  I still want to go to Axxess.  I still want to go to the Hall of Fame.  ROH shows sound awesome.  NXT Takeover sounds phenomenal.  Wrestlemania…yeah, I may just come on home and catch that one on the Network.  Tonight’s Raw…normally the best Raw of the year…I really don’t want to watch it.  I may not.

I’m not one of the ones who’s going to tell you to cancel the WWE Network over this, because as long as they offer the thing, I’ll never cancel it.  I love wrestling and wrestling history too much to lose access to as much of it as the WWE gives me.  But…I’m even more out of love with WWE than I’ve been in a while.  I won’t be going to the Smackdown show in June.  I won’t be going to any live events.  I probably won’t be watching any PPVs for a while.  No, I’ll stick with Nitro, and NXT, and stuff like that.  It’s weird…this company puts out things that I enjoy…I just wish a few of them could happen in the ring with the main roster.

Shane

WCW Magazine – Issue 19 – September 1996

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